More on the French Estate RED FLAGS PEOPLE!

26 Jun
RED FLAG! Major red flag! Add to this the report that he moved out of his LA home, this man, is abandoning his past life.
Two concerns, Is this truly his choice and does this abandoning include his children?
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Paris Match 

25 June 2015

Interview Roman Clergeat

THIS PLACE WHERE CHILDREN GREW EVOKES JOHNNY THE TIME OF HIS LIFE WITH VANESSA ON WHICH HE WANTS TO TURN THE PAGE

Paris Match: Did you make a production to take pictures, or was it everything indeed so?

Alexander Kraft: It was just like that. We just installed lighting. It is in this precise world that lived Johnny Depp and Vanessa Paradis.

How did you manage to get the mandate for the sale of this House?

The reputation of Sotheby’s played a lot. In the past, we sold the properties of Ronald Reagan, of Princess Margaret to mosquito, Madonna in France, by Dave Stewart of Eurythmics, George Clooney… I also found the House of Angelina and Brad in the Var. I have good contacts in the middle of Hollywood, and one day, an “informant” asked me if the sale of the House to an international star would interest me. A manager made me sign a confidentiality agreement but, at this stage, I didn’t know that we were talking about. It is always like that.

How are the negotiations subsequently?

The first step is the estimate. It’s difficult when it comes to property. I found a low starting price, but they explained to me that the sale would be with all the deco original and personal objects of Johnny Depp. This obviously changed the situation.

Is this the first time you encounter this scenario, a megastar who sells its property with its belongings?

In twenty years, at Sotheby’s, it’s the never-seen! In 90% of cases, it is out of the question to reveal the name of the seller or buyer, including internally, my teams are working on something without knowing the identity of the owner. In general, even if the House is beautifully decorated, it is impersonal. This is Johnny Depp himself who has designed the renovation of the buildings. He took care of the smallest details of the furniture, has chosen toys of children – authentic games wooden or iron, the former. We see DVD it has looked at family, his own books in the library, photos of his idols, like Hunter S. Thompson or Arthur Rimbaud.

The reasons of his approach have you asked to him?

It seems clear to me: it is a time of his life on which he wants to turn the page. The children grew up. The fact that this house is located in France indicates naturally he influence of Vanessa Paradis. He is remarried and has drawn a line under this period, I think. His life is now in the United States. And even if they were happy years, he probably didn’t want to keep a place where every corner him recall a past time.

What remains of Vanessa in this setting?

I assume that she withdrew in anticipation what belonged to her and of what she was fond. They are separated since when even three years …

Can Johnny Depp refuse to sell if the buyer does not like?

Of course!

More than 23 million euros, this seems “reasonable”?

The property is so large that you can spend six weeks at 20 people without walked you on. If it had been located in Saint-Tropez, the price would be multiplied by ten! The Plan-de-la-Tour is 20 kilometres but has other advantages. It is a hamlet protected by the curious. Sainte-Maxime is ten minutes, Saint-Tropez to forty. The village for bread, just nearby.

Who may be interested?

Americans wealthy but discreet. An old family. The English also. And why not Asian? But certainly not businessmen, the Russians or the people of the Middle East who want something more glitzy. Here, no bling-bling. It’s the bobo in the first sense of the term. Authentic, almost rustic. Anyway, it always ends the same way. After managers and lawyers, comes the time where the potential buyer comes with his wife and children. And whether it is for a 50-square-meter or a luxury villa, it is the woman who decides.

Do you think to sell easily?

Frankly, I do not know. As a real estate professional, I always advise to depersonalise property for sale. Remove the intimate things, painted in white to allow different people to project. This is the opposite, since it has even kept empty bottles of bordeaux, consumed by Johnny!

He did not leave his Cheval-Blanc and its Petrus, anyway?

No, but one or two bottles of Calon-Segur, his favorite wine.
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41 Responses to “More on the French Estate RED FLAGS PEOPLE!”

  1. Judy Latty June 26, 2015 at 5:10 pm #

    He has lost his mind!

  2. Bullshit June 26, 2015 at 5:55 pm #

    I don’t think he cares about anything or anyone anymore to be honest. He probably doesn’t even remember what having kids is like, or maybe he’s selling the house just to forget that. He’s not acting like a dad anymore, no wonder Lily Rose didn’t post a Father’s Day photo.

  3. cindy June 26, 2015 at 6:42 pm #

    Is there any chance that it is really an impulsive decision? It happened too soon just after Lily’s birthday. Something happened there and made him hurt or… feel angry. Considering he had kept the estate for three years after seperation, Aand it does seem to be quite strange that he always cares so much about his privacy, selling a property with all his belongings in it? It is more like to be a declaration to someone who pissed him off, see, I don’t give a fuck! It’s quite unusual, like the agent said, for a celebrity to sell an estate with a name nitified…..

    • Lydia June 26, 2015 at 10:35 pm #

      He met with Vanessa at that time at Ago for the bday dinner. Biolay wasn’t there and it came out that he and V had split up and that V said Biolay “is no Johnny Depp” and that her life was with her kids in LA, where she was going to try to reunite with Depp, Turdy be damned! So maybe they’re both putting France behind them? Or maybe J’s selling it while his name is still big to get as much $ as possible to give the $ to V, in the event she asked for more $ at the dinner?

      • cindy June 27, 2015 at 12:06 am #

        I don’t think v asked more money from JD, if there is someone asking for money from him, that would be Turdy. Maybe it is the truth that his little girl Lily has chosen to stay with V and left him making him sad and hurt. And his way to fight back is to make the situation totally screwed up. As I can recall, he once said he kept the estate for the kids to come back for vacation with his family. That seems to be just idealist…

  4. phonytexanbitch June 26, 2015 at 7:03 pm #

    So according to this he can still change his mind. Does anyone know what happens if this is up for sale when a split occurs? It would be in limbo, wouldn’t it? Would that mean Turdy couldn’t get her hands on it or the money from it’s sale?
    I’m so worried that he has lost his kids right now, lost his reason to breathe. The kids will be fine they have support of the rest of their family, but it seems as if Depp has completely walked away from all of his family since the wedding. Is Christi still running Infini Nil?

    • Liz June 26, 2015 at 11:06 pm #

      According to imdb pro, which is really the only industry database, yes Christie is still sitting President at IN.They have one project in pre-production, the Will Farrell comedy Tom’s Dad. There are several producing partners on that project so her and JD’s level of involvement can be very little to a lot. If there’s a shake up it will likely be reported quickly. Variety has a report that comes out monthly with any changes in companies…I’ll keep my eye out but considering that’s Christie’s livelihood, she’s not likely to walk away. She may simply limit her dealings with her brother to business.

      Also, I DID just notice the addition of a “commercial” agent at UTA on Johnny’s profile. He’s always had Tracy Jacobs at UTA, she’s his theatrical agent and always has been. This is fairly recent and most likely has to do with the Dior campaign. Should be interesting to see if he takes on any other commercial work.

      I too am worried that he’s already lost or is loosing his kids to this sham of a relationship and to me that will be the absolute worst! And once the truth comes to light Heard will be done for. Sadly, it will also hurt Johnny a great deal too. Hard to bounce back from “abandoned his children for a 20 something blonde bimbo.”

      He’d better turn back now whilst he still has the chance! However, I fear in his mind, he thinks he’ll have kids with Amber too and then he’ll be “the doting dad” again. Question is, is that part of HER plan, she has yet to indicate anything of that nature that I’m aware of. Has anyone ever heard her say she wants / plans to have children?? So far only her father seems to think that’s happening. And I think Johnny’s tune was something like “if she wants that, she should be allowed to” which says to me, she hasn’t entirely made her stance clear or even he can sense her wavering on that!

  5. Liz June 26, 2015 at 7:26 pm #

    Glad you posted it Andrew! To me this wreaks of Chupacabra shit all the way!

    I found it in a forum where people had been grasping for straws after the first story with things like “everything in the photos may not be for sale” or “surely he’ll remove any truly personal items before the sale.”

    Well, here we have it. The cold, bitter, truth, Johnny has abandoned this property with all it’s belongings including extremely personal, one of a kind items.

    And if his “wife” is to be believed, he has also left behind his LA HOME!

    He left behind his HOMES, his MEMORIES, his priceless items. Now, has he left behind the kids as well? I found it odd that they were referred to as “grown.” They are NOT grown. And even when they are grown, they will always be HIS children, unless of course, he abandons that. And the flags are popping up left and right!

    Also, I see one other potentially major red flag here that makes me think Chupa is behind this. The reference to Johnny’s “manager.” Now, to all my knowledge and all record I can find, Johnny has never had a manager. He has agents, lawyers, publicist, assistants and security. The only person I would dare say could be viewed as a “manager” is Christie. She’s the “President” and I dare say operating manager of his production company. Would she really be involved in this? Doubtful.

    And note, the realtor, from the sounds of this, ONLY dealt with said manager. I think all this about his state of mind in selling the estate and all it’s belongings was something prepared for him and supplied by said manager. After all, no where does this man mention meeting Johnny, and obviously, he would have! I mean has any person on the planet who ever met the man failed to mention it, especially when using his person to SELL a product.

    I call major, major trouble here. I think this manager is someone new, someone brought in by Turdy and most likely behind the Dior campaign and who knows what else we are going to have to endure!

    I’ve looked in the usual places and can’t find any reference to a “manager” for Johnny Depp. Not now. Not before. No where. As far as I’m concerned, this manager goes into the column of recent and uncharacteristic changes in Johnny’s life and also, potentially the most damaging.

    I know many readers here still believe (and I wanted to as well) this “relationship” is nothing more than an agreed upon partnership PR stunt… but the evidence is building… while this may be a stunt, I don’t think Johnny is entirely a willing participate. I’m leaning more and more with each development to believe Amber had indeed wrapped him around her evil, fucked up finger and is playing his life like it’s her personal, twisted, play ground.

    This will not end well for him if someone doesn’t step in and NOW.

    Now I kind of want to believe that Vanessa is an even bigger bitch than some have said because if it comes down to it, and she WANTS her children to have their father in their lives (she may not at this point) but if she DOES, she can pull this curtain down real fast. All she’d have to do is publicly reveal Johnny has become an absent father since marrying this fame whore and boom. It all comes tumbling down. The question is, whether the gain would be worth the loss on her part… I doubt it… therefore, we will likely see this charade continue until either a: Amber gets bored or b: Johnny gets dead. Lily’s “dungeon” of hell seems set to continue, poor children.

    There’s a very tiny sliver of a chance that he gets out on his own accord, it gets smaller every time a bit of his old life falls away.

    I’d love for him to wake up and realize before he leaves OZ. I fear once he’s back in LA, held up in the Chupa compound, surrounded by her leeches, he’s fucked. I will brace for “that” headline. 😦

  6. Mango June 26, 2015 at 7:26 pm #

    It may just be a way of clearing out certain memories and moving on, along with a tax situation, maybe even trying to avoid something. It doesn’t have to mean he is staying with Trouble.

    There maybe several ways he is moving on.

    • Liz June 26, 2015 at 8:04 pm #

      This is not moving on. I’ve never known a single human being who would say a healthy “moving on” involves abandoning everything as it sits.

      No mental health professional would say this is “ok” behavior. Not one.

      This is abandonment.

      He’s either running from pain, meaning he fucked up and knows it. Or is being forced away. Most likely fooled into believing he needs to “leave it all behind” to “start a new life” with Turdy.

      I recall seeing a cover of some magazine that had “this is a new life for me” in quotes when Johnny and Vanessa called it off. Now I can’t find it, I don’t know if he actually said those words but if he did, it has a whole new meaning now.

      This is a new fucked up life. A really fucked up life.

      • Mango June 26, 2015 at 10:23 pm #

        Maybe he’s staging it… Maybe he’s making her think that’s what he’s doing…

        I guess i could see him pulling the wool over certain people’s eyes- I just keep thinking of Tokyo- he was tired of it… I don’t really think that much has changed, I wonder if he’s blackmailed somehow- maybe why he hurt his hand… Found out news he detested…

        I’m not trying to upset people- just trying to read through what I’m seeing & hoping for a positive outcome…

        But I sense he maybe having to take drastic measures with this to fully get out of it… We don’t really know what all he’s up against.

      • Adrienne June 27, 2015 at 7:36 am #

        I totally agree this looks more like running away than turning the page.
        I had one major breakup in my life which made my life crumble and at some point I kicked everything memorable to the curb. Not because I had moved on but because their presence alone was unbearable. Now I know Johnny is not me and he might have completely different motives for his behaviour, but it could be a possible explanation for this very extreme act.
        If Amber was behind this then she would leave the ranks of ‘ bitchness’ and enter those of true evilness. But somehow I doubt it’s her.

  7. Anon June 26, 2015 at 8:32 pm #

    for fucks sake can we please agree that this is NOT about taxes. the man has several hundred million dollars. the taxes arent hurting him that badly. also, you dont leave all of your personal belongings in the house if you are selling it because of high tax. thats bullshit.

    • Anon June 26, 2015 at 8:47 pm #

      his guitar is still in the living room. the kids growth chart in the kitchen makes me sad. 😦

      • phonytexanbitch June 26, 2015 at 9:55 pm #

        One thing I can’t wrap my head around is that if this is Turdy’s doing and the relationship is real, then why, if she has this much control already, did she obviously allow others to control her in Oz, so that she would stay hidden. If she has this much hold over Depp then he would have not allowed them to keep her from the set, (he still has clout with Disney until this film has wrapped) and she would have been allowed to show up everywhere and anywhere she wanted.

      • Liz June 26, 2015 at 11:32 pm #

        @PTB regarding Turdy in Oz.
        My theory is she stayed hidden because a: doggie gate and the public was not going to be kind to her and b: no personal security for her and c: her friends didn’t get to come likely due to doggie gate and her family had to leave. Or, it IS possible she went out and did stuff and not a single damn pap or person saw her, recognized her or cared enough to take a photo. She’s a real nobody down under. And even here they don’t seem concerned enough to catch her in the airport (every time) where they’re already waiting so maybe, she’s just not worth the effort.

        As for her being allowed on set. No, not even Johnny Depp can insist that someone not working in a professional capacity must be allowed on set. Major misconception. That is a place of business, there are insurance issues alone with allowing someone to hang around who isn’t there and under a contract. Yes, visitors can be allowed. For productions of this size and nature, they will be allowed on a case by case bases, each one will be logged, and can be asked to leave at any time. That set belongs to Jerry Bruckheimer and Disney by law. And the general consensus is, Disney sets are kept tight, very tight. My guess, some visitors may have been allowed at first but then if they had to keep Turdy away, they had to ban ALL visitors as their cover. Personally I don’t think she was ever there. Whether she choose to stay away because those people won’t pander to her spoiled ass or because she was told to doesn’t matter, it’s not up to Johnny. The only way he could fight that is to quit, in which case, he’d get his ass sued off. But she wouldn’t want that, she loves his money too much!

        she has and will continue to choose her battles wisely to win the war. she’s smart in a twisted manipulative way, not a book smart educated way.

      • cindy June 26, 2015 at 11:33 pm #

        That is indeed what makes me sad….Those things left behind seem to be so precious. The guitar and kid’s things….I can understand he sells his estate as no one will go there anymore, it’s painful, I get that, but those things…If I were in this situation, I would rather have them collected or even destroied by myself instead of selling them to some unknown person, and release my privacy to public

      • Liz June 26, 2015 at 11:37 pm #

        Oh, also I forgot to add, had she been on set, she would have been required to sign an NDA (non disclosure agreement). Even as a guest, I know that for a fact. You don’t even get to audition for a Disney production without signing an NDA. Also, no photo devices are allowed. SO, Turdy would be miserable there!

        One of the directors put his daughters in the film as extras… likely, so they could legally be allowed to visit the set. No joke, it’s that tight.

  8. Lydia June 26, 2015 at 9:51 pm #

    I hope his habits haven’t destroyed hos mind; they seem to have affected his liver judgung by his jaundiced (covered by orange makeup) & puffy appearance on & off since approx 2009. Sale reasons? Prob the ridic high tax (sorry), increasing worries re terrorism in France, and none of them seem to go there anymore ‘ maybe too painful? As for the personal items, didn’t Van & Lily arrive in France just the day before the sale announcement? They could have gone to pick up anything anyone wanted; they’ve all had years to do that or send others to do so. Whatever’s left behind stays behind. Hope Ms Turd is the next thing he leaves behind!

  9. cindy June 26, 2015 at 11:42 pm #

    As a doctor, I do worry about his health. I don’t know if he is really constantly and crazy drinking as the rumors tell, I hope not anyway, but his sudden puffy appearance early this year did shock me, he is not in a good health condition then as far as I can tell.

    • Liz June 27, 2015 at 12:25 am #

      Indeed. He certainly did NOT have the look of a happy, healthy, sound man about to be married to the love of his life. Granted he does apparently have real difficulty with press tours, but he looked like hell BEFORE he hit the press circuit. Something was wrong.

      He’s looked a little bit better the last month, I’d give credit to any physical activity required by the role, however with his finger still bandaged (which I can’t believe it’s taken that long to heal!) he may not be handling a sword much. Considering the hours he’s keeping he can’t be remaining too drunk, but I worry that means he’s on something else to keep him going!

      Only time will tell it seems. After POTC wraps, I wonder what will happen. That may be the time that someone on the inside chooses to spill the beans! At that point, it may hurt any future productions he does but POTC will be in the clear.
      Someone needs to do it before it’s too late. I’d rather his public image take a dive and the man live a healthy long life than read one day “johnny depp dead of overdose / suicide”

      • cindy June 27, 2015 at 1:27 am #

        That would be really sad enough to see that, overdose? He tried that before, leading to a SVT which was then released by a emergent electric shock at hospital. Hope he can still remember that terrible feeling as he described in his biography. I noticed that he may take some physical training or be on a diet since he lost some pounds before POTC5 shooting. It is quite obvious when you comparing the photos during the shooting and those in the press tour. Even from the photo in German to that in Japan, you can see his body shape changed dramatically. Maybe he did care the POTC series and tried to maintain a better looking in the film, although it was a little late then, he tried anyway.

      • Andrew June 27, 2015 at 11:08 am #

        I too wonder why it’s been bandaged this long. My hope is that it already healed but they had to wrap his finger when they began filming and it’s just part of the costume now.

  10. stellina June 27, 2015 at 2:09 am #

    Since he leaves his stuff to make it more valuable, money is an issue here. He must have lost a lot of money with his movies which didn’t do well at the box office and which were co produced by IN over the past couple of years. The Dior campaign points into this direction also. Easy fast earned money.
    He’s far away from being broke, but he needs to make some money to keep the status quo. JMO.

    “I found a low starting price, but they explained to me that the sale would be with all the deco original and personal objects of Johnny Depp. This obviously changed the situation.”

  11. stellina June 27, 2015 at 2:18 am #

    “His life is now in the United States. And even if they were happy years, he probably didn’t want to keep a place where every corner him recall a past time.”

    He fucked up and he knows it.
    I don’t believe for a minute that his and Vanessa’s split was amicable and they all get along well now. If that were the case, why not keep the place for the entire patchwork family to share and come together? Why don’t they just add new happy times all together to the old ones?
    Instead it’s too painful for him to be confronted with the memories of the past.

    • Adrienne June 27, 2015 at 7:58 am #

      I absolutely agree. My theory is that Vanessa got enough of his behaviour (drinking, partying, girls) that she called it quits, even though she might still love her man. As Johnny is the type of guy who cannot stay single for two minutes, he turned to the most available woman, Amber, so maybe Amber was just lucky to be at the right place at the right time or she might have fuelled the breakup through her behaviour, who knows.
      To me Vanessa seems much cooler about the situation than Johnny, he behaves like a hurt and stubborn animal that bites back at everyone and everything. I think he is more than aware that he has fucked up big time, but too hurt and proud to admit it. As most ‘divorced’ men he might actually been surprised that Vanessa took it that far.

  12. designsondepp June 27, 2015 at 7:50 am #

    Having a forgein investment that you no longer enjoy, or rent out for profit becomes ‘dead money’. The market is vulnerable today and since this is overseas he needs to rely on strangers to oversee the property. It makes sense to sell it. However, to use very personal items to promote the sale says something else to me. Johnny is a player. Always has been. The very idea that he never understood the publicity is bullshit. He uses it to his advantage when he wants to just like other celebritys. Marketing this property using the ‘family image home’ is no different than using the ‘family image man’ that we all heard about once he started working for Disney. Just another layer of false image feed to the public to promote and keep his name out there to use for his advantage.

    • Andrew June 27, 2015 at 11:04 am #

      This sounds more likely. It’s as if he’s saying “I never was a family man and I need to rid myself of that image.” “Let others know they are right, I was never who they thought I was, and I’m angry I had to appear that way, living a lie when it wasn’t me”

  13. goawayjamber June 27, 2015 at 7:54 am #

    This Article might explain a few things. Vanessa might be the one selling the French Estate. Read the last sentence in the article.

    SOURCE: DIGITAL SPY

    On 21st June, we wrote…

    Vanessa Paradis may be in line to receive up to £100m in an out-of-court settlement, following her separation from partner Johnny Depp.

    The actor is thought to have offered the French actress this large lump sum, following the announcement of their split on Tuesday, in order to keep the break-up amicable.

    Hollywood lawyer Robert Nachshin said the fact that the pair, who have been together 14 years, never married makes the situation more complicated.

    “If the couple had been married, Mr Depp’s wife would be able to simply claim 50%, child support payments and alimony.”

    “However, because they are not married this does not apply. The partner [Paradis] would have to file a civil suit and go to court.”

    Johnny Depp is reputed to be worth £225m so giving Vanessa £100m would avoid a long (and no doubt public) legal battle. “Litigation is expensive, and could run into extremely high figures. This won’t be a monthly payment plan – he will make a lump sum payment as a settlement.”

    As well as the settlement, it is thought Vanessa will retain the house the couple shared with their two children in Southern France.

    • Adrienne June 27, 2015 at 8:03 am #

      Ok but why does Sotheby’s sell it in Depp’s name? They speak of his manager not hers. We’ll probably will never figure out the true story 🙂

      • goawayjamber June 27, 2015 at 8:16 am #

        True, but if JD doesn’t give a fuck anymore, maybe he agree with Vanessa to use his name. Or maybe, it is hers, but Johnny’s name is still on the “paper work”. As you said thou….we’ll probably never find out. Maybe Vanessa is the one with a “manager”.

    • cindy June 27, 2015 at 9:31 am #

      Thank you for finding the information. I also thought that it may be V to sell it. However, it is still hard to explain something. V also retained the yacht after that separation, so she sold it imediately and kept the estate for three years? for what purpose? Try to reunite with JD? And seeing his marriage with Turdy, she gave up that hope? Furthermore, as V is not as rich as J, the high tax would be a problem for her to keep it that long without actually living there.

      • goawayjamber June 27, 2015 at 9:52 am #

        ^^ And she probably wouldn’t mind selling off, his things!!!!

      • cindy June 27, 2015 at 10:12 am #

        Including those kids’ things? Unlikely…

    • Andrew June 27, 2015 at 11:02 am #

      Now if she’s selling it THAT would be a burn. Kinda like the family got together and said “ok, here it is, you wanna ruin your life, drink, drugs, and behave in a way that could cost/kill you? This is what I/we can do.” and boom she puts the house up. No legal law saying you can’t sell it as where Johnny Depp lived. LMFAO

      • goawayjamber June 27, 2015 at 11:11 am #

        LOL Love it! You the best Andy.

    • stellina June 27, 2015 at 3:51 pm #

      From which year is this article, sounds like the ones we got back in 2012 shortly after the split. Is it recent? Can you share the link? TY

  14. goawayjamber June 27, 2015 at 9:55 am #

    Also, about her selling the yacht….the tabs were saying that it was Johnny that sold it. So, here we are again with a repeat..using Johnny’s name instead of the REAL seller.

    • cindy June 27, 2015 at 10:14 am #

      Really? Maybe I just confused that…did she retain the yacht? I am not so sure anymore….

    • Anon June 27, 2015 at 10:18 am #

      Or maybe Vanessa didnt keep the Yacht and the House and that was all just tabloid rumor.

      • cindy June 27, 2015 at 10:38 am #

        Yes…now I truely doubt that

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