I decided to make a post where members could post/comment about anything they wanted. Free for All post. Whatever happens to be your topic, feel free to post on it.
My biggest issue is how this affects the children. I do not care if one of them is 16 years old. I can tell by looking at the things LR posts, and her friends there has been a lack of dad’s presence in her life. If NOT, then her father is the most LAX father I have ever heard or known about.
Agreed. I never pay all that much attention to the dribble in the media or an actors private life but when I started seeing Johnny appearing out of sorts I became curious. I remember it wasn’t the Hollywood Film Awards drunken speech that disturbed me as much as his appearence on The Late Show where he still sounded slow and slurred and looked like hell. I thought, maybe it’s just exhaustion, as those tours can be brutal. But alas, the disaster continued on and on and on. I never would have “followed” his children before, Depp always seemed to be a good father and I respected the desire to keep the children out of the spotlight….and then…. they’re on a press tour with Amber’s arms around them! Shit got weird then. I follow Lily’s Instagram now, which does feel a bit weird, but to read her comments, something is missing from this little girl’s life and I to can’t help but think it’s her father. And I also think she’s not loving Amber’s presence anymore. Maybe it was ok in the beginning, maybe she thought it was fun having someone around who was closer to her age and had friends that were and seemed interesting and cool…. and now I think she realizes that’s not so cool. Sure she’s 16 and that’s a hard age and girl’s are fickle but if she has to add to that loosing her father, that’s brutal.
I have to agree with you. In some way I see Johnny as a “deadbeat dad”. OK, he’s providing financially but not emotionally to his children. Maybe that’s because he is not emotionally stable himself or maybe it’s because his new “wife” is draining him emotionally so that he has nothing left for his children. Either way, it’s really sad. Sixteen is a very impressionable age. I don’t understand why parents think that children at that age don’t need them anymore and that is the time to make changes. Toddlers, children and pre-teens are much more resilient and handle changes and tragety better than their older counter-parts. True, teenagers don’t need a parent to teach them to walk or talk, they don’t need diapers changed or the boogie man chased out from under their beds, but they DO need support, unconditional love and they need emotional stability that will allow them to explore themselves. They need the feedback of a trusted parent that helps to guide them, helping them to understand all of the choices they face. The problem in the world of entertainment, is that those children born into it have MANY more choices than average children do and they are the ones that need their parent’s guidance the most and tend to get it the least. That’s why so many Hollywood kids end up in trouble. JMO
I do not want to imagine what will happen to children when Chupa pregnant, she will take care to separate completely from the father …. Poor Lily and Jack
I totally agree, Andrew. I just feel he has been very selfish in this category of his kids. He has put HIS needs ahead of them. I may be way off, but I don’t think so. He needs to be spending more time with his kids. I will forever be disappointed in his relationship with amber.
and one more thing…Early 2013 – Hospital and then follow up at her doctor.
During the clinic stint, she wanted to go public and Johnny didn’t want to go public, she ended up taking a shit load of pills and alcohol and ended up in the hospital. Right after that, Rolling stones happened. Several places reported her checking into her doctors a few days later, (after the hospital) but only one place mentioned why and it was yanked off line.
So I’m not the only one who noticed that. LR seems really sad lately. I know she’s a teen. But I think she can see and certainly knows how much Amber is dangerous. On the other hand, she’s growing up and realizes her father has a serious problem with alcohol and drugs ?
Yes and both parents are leaving the children to their own devices, and LR is dabbling in areas, I as a father, would have a SHIT FIT over. Heads would ROLL, I can go “Whitey Bulger” in less than 5 myself.
Cant beieve he would want a chick that threatens suicide……..cant he see shes crazy???
That isn’t genuine suicide, that’s manipulating suicide as well. Nothing is off limits for her to twist”
Sorry but this little viper is as manipulative as they come….
I think she pulled that stunt on purpose. I think he possibly never intended to get serious with her, as she has represented herself as a wild child…. Men that want a relationship don’t normally consider that a promising quality…..
I think initially he was taken by her to some extent, then she started playing the games- & that ended any desire to want something serious possibly. So I think she threatened him to go public- so he wouldn’t leave. I think she pulled the pill routine to posdibly try to trap him and place him between a rock and s hard spot…. Trying to make him look bad if he left-
She can take all the pills she wants, hold things over his head ….. Keep it up.., it’s more and more obvious & he’s getting worn out…. He can either choose to his life again or rot away with her… It’s backing him in a corner, he’s going to have to choose something….
But honestly, he is pampered and catered to by many…. There are many people around his family… He knows there is always someone for the kids to go to- away on set sometimes…
If they had to live like average America with no bodyguards, sitters, assistants…. They would have to be more accountable..,. This gives them more time to be away and play- if they so choose…. It can also mess up their priorities……
I don’t think he would be as amused or curious to her antics if he was more in tune to his kids….. Even with V gone, he could still focus on them…. If he was he wouldn’t be dragging the world with her, he would want different….
So I assume….
Idk what to think of him anymore…
What he really wants….,
Nobody in the right frame of mind would put up with her ridiculous ways.
On one hand I have to agree with you, Depp has always been a scrapper and if he’s backed into a corner he will fight his way out (mentally/physically, whatever). I think the stint at the film awards was just that, he was pushing back in his own obtuse way.
But on the other hand I have to respectfully disagree with you. Do you honestly think that passing the children off to other people is ok? We all have only 2 biological parents and when we grow up close to those parents, they are the only ones that can truly know us, no matter how close anyone else might be. Don’t let money and prestige fool you into thinking that it’s ok for Depp and Paradis to let others raise their children. For every parent, it is ultimately their responsibility to oversee the care of their children. They chose to bring them into the world and the responsibility doesn’t end when the child grows up, it just changes form. IMO
I found this comment below on another blog. I’m not giving credit because it was posted as guest.
But I went to get it because maybe the fuss about the shower scene has already been an attempt to make the public want to know about it and then they would know it was not a scene with Angelina, but with Amber.
I think it may have also been an attempt to use rumors to stir the media and fans.
It fits Amber.
“Where does Amber want to go? Why does she need a strategy?
This pic was posted in 04/19/2013
This was posted in 10/24/2013
this other was posted in 12/25/2013
These were posted in 01/11/2015
All these photos were posted on a Russian website. I don’t think this site collaborates with Amber, but I think both this and an Italian site are used by Amber and her strategy.
The first photo was posted just before Johnny went in public with Amber.
The second, just before the engagement news.
The third on the alleged engagement.
The fourth just before the wedding.
This is not Johnny’s strategy or his PR, he never used this type of argument and even more than they were posted on a website dedicated to Amber.
Anyway, this is a strategy, as I said before, the kind used by the old communism and even Nazism, so people began to view these and interest for these to happen.
But why all this?
why can not just be a normal relationship?”
That 4th one is really interesting. Her hanging all over yet another female friend and her dress is white and very “wedding gown” like. She still acts too much like a teenage girl…. or a trashy whore. Grow up Amber.
I recently revisited this interview – http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/johnny-depp-an-outlaw-looks-at-50-20130618 – where Johnny claims he’s been sober since his breakup. So according to him that would’ve been the end of 2011 or beginning of 2012. I still think he sobered up to try to save his relationship with Vanessa and it just wasn’t enough at this point. Either way, if this means his relationship with Amber started when he was sober it really makes me wonder if Amber just doesn’t know how to handle Johnny’s drinking or really doesn’t see it as a problem. (He still doesn’t fully accept it!) Clearly he’s been drinking on and off again the last few years. Amber may not be the cause, but she’s clearly not going to be part of the solution either.
Also there’s this interesting bit from an interview in Vanity Fair I recalled… him talking about Angelina and her life…
“And because here we are working together in this situation where you could really—there are times when you see how ridiculous is this life, how ludicrous it is, you know, leaving your house every morning and being followed by paparazzi, or having to hide, sometimes not even being able to talk to each other in public because someone will take a photograph and it will be misconstrued and turned into some other shit.”
Now, this is HIS life since Amber came into the picture! It always seemed impossible how he maintained such a quiet life for so long but he did. And now, that ludicrous shit is becoming his reality. Something he clearly never, ever would’ve wanted! No wonder he’s back to the bottle and god knows what else.
Comments on a few of the posts here:
Re the pills:
I always thought she was the emotional blackmailing type. But how destructive do you also have to be to cave into that?? She knew after that she could do whatever she wanted.
I also think his drinking doesn’t bother her since she doesn’t care about him as a person–he’ s a trophy. You can come up with all kinds of reasons to disengage from the situation- walk out of the house, take on another lover , take over finances, do whatever you like since your partner is
really not there. I think his drinking suits her just fine and she wouldn’t change a thing.
The kids are really getting the best sticky end of the lollipop. Maybe it’s my imagination, but Vanessa seems to be on constant guard duty these days.
I agree with all of it except the kid part, I believe both JOhnny and Vanessa are always on holiday pertaining to the kids
Agreed….Vanessa and Johnny are busy with their careers and new lovers. Like most divorced couples it’s the children who suffer. They get caught up in their parents’ drama and get pulled in several directions.
Johnny Depp: Age 13
While promoting the 2008 Tim Burton musical Sweeney Todd, he told Rolling Stone: “I haven’t done anything this collaborative since I lost my virginity at 13”
Johnny Depp, Americas so-called Hollywood heartthrob, in an interview with a … has admitted to using every drug imaginable since he was 14 and engaging in …
From 1988 to 1991, Paradis dated French singer Florent Pagny. In March 1989, at age 16, she left high school in order to pursue her career. Florent was 26 years old to her 15 years. She moved in with him.
What we see as a huge red flag through the social media of LR and her friends, seems unconcerning to her parents. After all, what were they doing at 13 and 16, Jack and Lily’s ages now. Add to the mix a split family, parents that are constantly absent, a new wife for Daddy, a boyfriend for Mommy, the Tonto video, Daddy at the Hollywood Film Awards, ‘whatever’ really happened to Daddy’s hand………….but I guess it’s just me. Sounds like life is good for the Depps because EVERYONE broke bread together to celebrate LilyRose turning 16.
Maybe, but maybe not. Vanessa seems to me to have her shit together and may actually be very strict. Despite her behavior when she became famous, she comes from a French Catholic family, their values are just different there. She probably rebelled against some of that in her teenage years and that’s normal. To me, all the reports that Vanessa may be a “bitch” probably stem from her being from a different culture. There’s a long history of Americans thinking the French are rude… she’s probably just French. LOL I also feel like she’s not absent. She’s often seen with the kids and they’re flying in and out of LA with her. Maybe she’s not perfect but DAMN I’ve got to be optimistic and think at least ONE of them is alert and present.
The real question becomes, when do they see their father?
It’ll be interesting to see if they go to OZ at all while he’s filming. They should be nearing their summer break (if they’re not already on it) so it would make sense to me if they all flew back to OZ together so the kids could spend time with dad and get a vacation in. See a new country. That always seemed to be something Johnny and Vanessa wanted for their kids…to see the world and they can certainly provide that.
BUT if Vanessa is concerned about Johnny’s behavior, or the kids don’t really want to be around him, than my guess is, they won’t appear down under.
Or perhaps Amber will have something to say about it because guess who’s going to get stuck with the kids while Johnny is on set….step mommy! But then, that might be a good thing…let her get a little “quality time” alone with those two, then we’ll see what she’s really made of. I’d like to picture Lily and Jack plotting evil things to do to Amber whilst Daddy isn’t looking! LOL
If I was Vanessa there is no way in hell I would let my children be alone or influenced by chupacabra. …. even though both Johnny and Vanessa had a wild teenage years. ..Johnny (sorry can’t remember where) don’t want Lily to model or act but Vanessa was more willing to let her separate her wings…that was a few years ago.
Johnny always talks about Lily and being a protective dad…as it such be…but it appears that he hasn’t been there for children lately. WHY.
1. Doesn’t want chupacabra around his children
2. Doesn’t want his children to see him out of control
3. Always been that way…Big BS story that he’s a great dad.
Lily Rose is getting allot of attention and let’s hope she’s a smart girl but it’s easy to get caught up in fame and attention….chupacabra style.
Jack will be an interesting study… Johnny says that he’s
a boy…solid. Obviously he goes along and doesn’t say much…you know what they ‘silence is deadly’. He may be the one to come out on top of shit show.
DYS FUNC TIONAL AL
This whole relationship and “family” is a joke. JD trying to be young again and making a total fool out of himself in the process. His diva-like behavior regarding filming and when things don’t go his way. AH using the sh*t out of him to get somewhere which she never will because she CAN’T ACT.(and who’s choice of females SUCKS.) LR looking like a sad anorexic drug addict on the verge of doing somerthing crazy, VP missing in action as always, AH’s father the tag-along, press seeking groupy. It’s really a sad pathetic existance for a bunch of disfunctional attention seeking narcissists. Jack is the only sanity but unfortunately he will soon succomb to the madness.
I come from a French Catholic family and an Italian Catholic family (one generation away from the old country). The core values of Catholism remain the same for everyone anywhere. It is the individual, myself included, that ‘bend the rules’. While Vanessa may have gotten her shit together regarding her life-after-Depp, and I think she has, I still maintain that neither parent is paying close attention to those children. Strict doesn’t seem to play into this, IMO. Be that they think this is all okay for the kids because they are old enough, or they are too involved with their own careers and new ‘love’ interests, things are slipping through the cracks. Turdy in charge of those children by her self would NOT be a good thing. JMO.
That’s true Vanessa comes from to a french Catholic family. But both her parents used to live hippies lifestyle. They gave her the right to be what she wanted to be. Maybe too much. She became a big star (In France and England), when she was only 14 years old. People around her (showbizness), were all adults. I’m not saying Vanessa is the greatest mother ever. Not at all. What I mean is she seems to be more involved in the education of her children since the wedding of Depp and Amber. But I also think she made a big mistake by bringing her daughter in that Chanel events. In my point of view, it was too early for LR and I still don’t get why she did that. At the same time Johnny Depp was quite okay with it. He’s the first one who introduce his daughter in the hollyweird world. After all he played into the two first movies to LR. I remember an interview in which JD said that her daughter was already an better actress than him… I’m French. We maybe are “rude” for the American Lmao 😉 idk but I can also tell you that French people think the Americans are pretentious and want to dictate how others should live. I personally think we just have different cultures…. Getting back in the subject, I can’t deny that LR is not surrounded enough by the both. Especially by JD lately. It was just my point of view. I could be wrong you know
French people are not rude, they are reserved. It’s our culture to keep strangers and aquaintances at a polite armlength distance instead of spilling our guts out at every opportunity. This applies to most European cultures. For North Americans this usually comes quite as a shock when they first enter Europe, because they perceive people as cold, snobbish, and unwelcoming. For Europeans on the other hand, people’s openess in the US and Canada can be rather too much sometimes and often seems quite superficial. It’s just a matter of perspective. I lived in the US and in four European countries, so I guess I can allow myself to judge ;)…
Agreed. I notice this with friends of mine that are well traveled. They tend to adopt that behavior of “at arms length until better aquainted”
Frankly I wouldn’t judge either of their parenting, at least their early parenting, but even now too because I think the kids turned out well considering the spotlight they’re under. For starters, Lily Rose is still in school, and considering that both of the parents are high school drop outs and the kids are likely set to inherit a mountain of gold (although I’m exaggerating, who knows what plans they have for their future), it would have been understandable to see her drop out too and just pursue a career in acting/modeling. And frankly she doesn’t seem out of control, I mean we’ve all done things we weren’t meant to when we were teenagers but even her instagram doesn’t look like the instagram of a social butterfly/party girl/celebrity rich kid. She’s always with the same people in photos so she probably has a stable circle of friends and I think that considering the audience that she has, if she wanted to she could divulge a lot more private aspects of her and her parents’s life through instagram. I think from that point of view she’s been told clearly that some things are off limits (compare her instagram to one of the famous-for-being-famous celebrity’s instagram, which are basically a public diary and a showcase of their wealth and status – Lily’s is more like an artsy photobook).
So sure she may drop a hint every now and then because at 16 your self-control isn’t your best quality (i.e. the “birthday dungeon” and “sour sixteen”), but I still think she manages to keep certain aspects of their family life private better than most celebrities. Funny thing, when the wedding was happening, it might have been right on the wedding day or the day after, not sure, she posted a photo of one of her male friends lying on some bench with a caption that said something like “an honour to meet the reverend”, but it got deleted not long after. Whatever people say about her relationship with Heard, I think she’s made her opinion clear about this wedding and it also tells a lot that ever since the wedding there hasn’t been a single photo of Johnny and the kids (there was the one with Jack at the actual wedding), not on the street, not at airports, not on instagram, not anywhere, and it’s not like Johnny is making such a big effort these days not to be photographed.
To PTB- I meant it wasn’t right for them to pass them off…. If that’s how it is…. My point was it would be easy for them to do that in their situation….
Not that they should or that it’s a good thing….
You misunderstood me I think.
Every one is assuming Depp and Heard went to LR’s birthday celebration but I do find it very strange there is not one pic of them arriving or leaving because believe you me that’s fodder for the paps the new ‘wife’ pic with the ex and mother of his children. Unless I’m wrong of course but I’ve yet to see a photo. If he was there who’s to say Heard attended? Maybe a stay away to keep the peace?
TBC, I agree that it’s weird that there is not one photo of Johnny or turdy coming or going ….let’s face turdy has to be getting twitchy , she needs to be seen and photographed.
Jack posted a few pictures of LR ‘s birthday, one of himself at the restaurant. ..for the children sake, I hope that turdy wasn’t there and LR can get some one on one time with her parents. Jack as well.
I agree too. I do find it so strange …Yes, that Amber needs to be seen and photographed. I dont understand why the paps wouldn’t take the opportunity to have pics to of all of them “reunite” as DM called it… It’s weird
I totally agree, the whole story sounds pretty made up. ‘look how cool we are with the whole thing, getting along sooo well.’, strange then that the female side of JD’s family did not attend his wedding, if they are so cool about everything wouldn’t that be an event much more important than a 16th birthday?
I woke up thinking this very thing!!! This event would have made papz serious money, probably more than any photo they’ve gotten of Depp in a long while. The papz were there they were told they slipped out the side, but the papz would have had all entrances and exits covered. So why didn’t they get even one shot of Mr and Mrs PhotoOp? Plus how many pictures were there? Maybe I missed them but I only saw the one of Van, LR and Malcolm. DM wants us to believe that Malcolm’s presence indicates that Depp and Turdy were there. Paid security he goes where he’s paid. But why go to Cirque just 4 days before with an obvious photo op, but then shun an appearance at an occasion that would be happy and show them best as a happy centered couple with family support? Then have DM start the rumor that they were there, pushing it with photos that prove that they weren’t to those of us who realize how this shit works. If you notice the story of them being there really didn’t catch on much. The part of the story that got the focus was that LR turned 16 and how “cool” she is to have called it “sour”. They seem to be downplaying the fact that this may indicate that she is an unhappy girl. Sorry, I know I go on…but I’m interested to know what you all think. Why would they not want to be seen at a happy occasion together? I have my opinion I will share, but I’d rather hear from others first.
B/c it’s AWKWARD…
He would be around the people that know this situation… If he’s not really wanting her in his life , he’s not going to want her around his daughter ‘s 16th B-Day…
BTW, idk if the text made it on here, but I wanted to say that I wasn’t implying in my earlier text it was a good thing- that he didn’t have to be around them much…. I was saying that they have that option and maybe a problem for them….
I think it could be a negative situation with that.,,
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Johnny and turdy were a no show. I’m sure the party was his dime and being held at Argo it is easy to believe they were there. There are many reasons why he could have bowed out at the last minute or was never attending resulting in a sweet/sour memory for LilyRose. (and no word that Grandma, Christie and other LA Depp relatives attended either) The word was he came back home to celebrate with his daughter so the press just assumes or is paid to indicate they are all getting on together.
Appartently, Johnny went to see Frankie Moreno last night at CalTech in Pasadena. No sign of A Turd yet but I’m sure we will see or hear something. https://twitter.com/frankiemoreno
So….. it’s ok for pictures here.. but not his own daughters birthday party? Whatever…
Chupa was in the swow.Publicacion Frankie Moreno:
We got to hang out with Johnny Depp and his wife for over two hours in a little dressing room at our show last night- just laughing and Talking about random things. He’s seriously a genuinely nice and humble guy, but an even better kisser.
I just read this from a article:
On May 27, Lily Rose, Johnny Depp’s eldest daughter by Vanessa Paradis, marked her 16th birthday which she decided to celebrate at Ago Restaurant in West Hollywood, California.
It was one of those occasions to be cordial and warm so the event brought in her mother as expected, her father Johnny, and her father’s newly-wedded wife Amber Heard.
But there was no animosity at all between Vanessa and Amber as they were seen together mingling and spending quality time with Lily Rose as she marks another important milestone in her young life, reports Hollywood Life.
It was also the perfect occasion for both Johnny and Amber to dispel rumors that they are on the way to splitsville and will be divorcing soon, barely five months after tying the knot early in February this year
The writer should define mingling. haha!
Amber and Vanessa mingling together? LMAO. Hard to believe.
I until I see pictures, I do not think ,are just gossip
Lots of questions:
When does he go back to Oz?
Will he be bringing another beast with him on the plane-Chupa?
Since she currently appears to be in something like house arrest, why would she want to go, plus she’d be leaving the dogs behind?
Who will be waiting for Johnny when his plane lands in Oz?
Those sour pictures were posted before her real birthday so she must have had a birthday week. Johnny Depp once said he would prefer LR smoking in his house rather than on the street. Wacky stuff. She has pictures of her sipping wine a lot. He don’t mind, He is above the law. So he thinks. I think LR is posting as a cry out for stable help. If she doesn’t get it who knows what is next. I wonder if JD is bi himself? He sure is coming off that way. On one of his friends pages on FB one friend joked one of the Kids had a thing with him and made a love song to him. Maybe it was a joke maybe not. If he is he should come out, since his newly temp wife has. They all need to be locked up in a secure mental hospital!
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