Bogey and Bacall – SLIM Unveiled

10 Jul

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ALRIGHT – “Slim”  The mystery of that tattoo???  Slim a character from Of Mice and Men. Bogart didn’t call Bacall “slim” he called her by her nickname ” The Look”  So where is this Slim? Howard Hawks knew Bogey and Bacall. He trained Bacall to speak in a lower register. However his wife worked with Bacall too. Howard’s wife was named SLIM. Slim Keith. She and her friend were the thinly veiled inspiration for characters in Truman Capote’s novel answered prayers. Remember the editor of Marie Claire tweeting that she and Amber spent time together recently talking about Truman Capote? This may be our answer to SLIM. Go to this link and read/scroll to the  “personal life” area.  – or Johnny’s tattoo could still just be from literature he loves as well.

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Info on Bogey and Bacall

Bogie and Bacall – The two actors seemed like the perfect couple and I’m sure they really did love each other, but, did anyone really think that Humphrey Bogart could be totally faithful to Lauren Bacall, who was wife number four? In Bogart’s case, it appears that the saying, “once a dog, always a dog” rings true.

Verita Thompson, in her book, “Bogie and Me: The Love Story of Humphrey Bogart and Verita Thompson,” details the long running affair the two had during the 1940s and 1950s. Thompson, a wig maker to the stars, first met Bogart in 1942 at a wrap party for Casablanca. At the party Bogart and Thompson danced and drank the night away. It was the “beginning of a beautiful friendship” – or maybe “beautiful” isn’t the appropriate word.

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Bogart would continue to see Thompson after that night. When Thompon’s husband at the time, Robert Peterson, was away on military service, Bogart would stop by Thompson’s home in Burbank. The home was conveniently located near the Warner Bros. studio where Bogart worked, so afterwards, Bogie could visit Thompson without his then third wife, Mayo Methot, ever knowing.

What is surprising is that, after Thompson divorced her husband and Bogart divorced Methot, he would go on to marry Lauren Bacall just 12 days later. Though this didn’t stop Bogart from seeing Thompson. In 1949, when Bogart left Warner Bros. to form his own production company, he hired Thompson. Thompson was a wig maker and Bogart wore a toupee. It made perfect sense for Thompson to be working for Bogart.

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September 2010- Article

On the silver screen he was tough, cool and sophisticated; in real-life, one of Hollywood’s legendary lovers.

Sexually voracious and habitually unfaithful, Humphrey Bogart had three unhappy marriages before he met the love of his life, Lauren Bacall.

Now it has emerged that before marrying her in 1945, Bogie had bedded an estimated 1,000 women including Bette Davis, Jean Harlow, Marlene Dietrich and Ingrid Bergman – but still feared he might be gay.

The extraordinary claim is made in a new biography of the actor, best known for the movie Casablanca.

It suggests that during his second marriage to American stage and film actress Mary Philips, Bogart became riddled with uncertainty that made him impotent and question his sexuality – and even drove him to consider suicide.

The biography’s author Darwin Porter, a journalist who worked in Hollywood in the 1960s, says Philips insisted on openly maintaining her previous relationships, even spending the night before their marriage in 1928 with a friend of Bogart’s ‘as a farewell gift’.

According to the unflattering new book, Bogart told another friend: ‘If only Mary didn’t make it worse. When I can’t perform she mocks and ridicules me. I should never have married her.’

He is said to have confessed to another confidante to thoughts of killing himself. ‘But I never get beyond the thinking stage. I just can’t see myself taking a razor to my throat,’ he reportedly said.

The book, Humphrey Bogart, the Making of a Legend, due out next month, is based on unpublished memoirs and interviews with some of the actor’s contemporaries.
It suggests his mental turmoil stemmed from his childhood. His father, who was a surgeon, beat him and split his lip, then stitched it up so badly that Bogart was left with a permanent lisp.

He ran away to Broadway, where during the 1920s he found fame and fortune – and began his incredible catalogue of sexual conquests.

‘When Broadway had around 120 theatres, there were four actresses for every available actor. No one has estimated this before, but it’s likely Bogart slept with 1000 women, mostly at this time,’ Porter said.

Bogart married his first wife, actress Helen Menken, in 1926. Porter claims she had ‘a lot of lesbian affairs’ and he was ‘keeping score with her’ – and even that they were sometimes both chased by the same women.

Joan Blondell, an on-off girlfriend of Bogart’s, said: ‘The zipper was invented in 1926. Bogie demanded one be sewed into all of his pants – sex was a lot faster that way.’

Some of his seductions were brief affairs. At a party he was marched upstairs by Dietrich, it is claimed, and his first attempt to seduce a young Bette Davis was interrupted when her mother threw him out of their house, calling him ‘a slave to your genitalia’.

Bogart’s marriage to Menken lasted only a year. His second marriage ended in divorce in 1937.

The next year he wed wife number three, Mayo Methot, who once stabbed him with a butcher’s knife. They were known as the ‘Battling Bogarts’ during their seven year marriage.

Bogart found what Hollywood magazines called ‘true love’ with Lauren Bacall on the set of To Have and Have Not in 1944, and made her his fourth and final wife. It was a happy relationship, although he conducted a long affair with his hairdresser, Verita Peterson. Bogart died of cancer aged 57 in 1957.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315409/Humphrey-Bogarts-fears-gay-drove-suicide.html#ixzz2Ycq9NUY2

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And one last quote from Howard Hawks who knew Bogey and Bacall all too well.

Bacall meanwhile was 19 and practicing lowering her speaking voice under Hawks’ tutelage. As Hawks later said, “Bogie fell in love with the character she played and she had to go right on playing it for the rest of their marriage.”

Let’s hope Paul and Chenault wake up soon.

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15 Responses to “Bogey and Bacall – SLIM Unveiled”

  1. Denise July 10, 2013 at 3:59 am #

    What does his tattoo then mean ? And does it have something to do with amber? I know it Will just be a guess ?

    • jambernews July 10, 2013 at 4:50 am #

      Great question. My quest was to answer how it’s tied to Bogey and Bacall. People say Bogey called Lauren Bacall “slim” Lauren Bacalls character in To Have and Have Not was called Slim. Most people remember and recount Bogey calling Bacall “The Look” it’s a nickname he gave her due to the way she posed in photos. I only wanted to see if there were any other answers to “Slim” around Bogey and Bacall and found Lady Slim Keith, who much of Bacalls look was based off of. Since Lady Slim Keith was written about by Truman Capote it seems the connection might lie in Lady Keith. IF the tattoo has anything to do with Amber at all.

      So what does this mean? Since the new tattoo on the opposite arm is in reference to a literary work/song lyrics. It’s fitting “Come with Me” would be about the same thing.

      #1. The tattoo is in reference to a favorite literary piece of Johnny’s, but also has “slim” included that could be a reference to Amber Heard.
      #2. The tattoo is about a literary piece that Johnny loves and “slim” including the handwriting has nothing to do with Amber Heard.
      #3. If it has nothing to do with Amber Heard (who Johnny made a statement about Heard/Bacall and Amber seeming to remind him of Bacall. It makes no sense that it would be signed Slim by Amber Heard. Lady Slim Keith was a woman that worked WITH Bacall)
      #4. If it has nothing to do with Amber(Bacall) then who is it about? (Handwriting. Who reminds Johnny of Lady Keith?)

  2. karma July 10, 2013 at 8:59 am #

    I prefer the “From mice and men” theory. Johnny talked about the book frequently.
    Personally i would find it disapointing if a creative person like Johnny would give a “second hand” nickname to his lover, unable to come up with something more unique of his own.

    #3 It does make sense, since Slim is the character who says “Come with me” at the end of the book. Slim hereby offers friendship to a person who has done a horrible thing.

    • jambernews July 10, 2013 at 9:06 am #

      I agree. Also the handwriting. Is this the tat artists writing? Is it someone else he knows? The Come with me from of mice and men certainly sounds like his love for helping those that have been done an injustice.

  3. karma July 10, 2013 at 9:34 am #

    Maybe he feels he is the one who has done injustice?

  4. AmberWHO? July 10, 2013 at 9:42 pm #

    I was told that the Of Mice and Men quote was “Come on with me”, I haven’t checked it. But if it was for this work, I would think it would be quoted correctly.

    • jambernews July 10, 2013 at 10:06 pm #

      I do believe you are correct. I read the last page of the book and it is ‘Come on with me”. I do believe it would have been quoted correctly. After all “Men Are Giddy Things” is quoted correctly. So can we rule out “Of Mice and Men” perhaps so.

    • jambernews July 10, 2013 at 10:07 pm #

      Also I am going to check an actual book instead of online books. I’ll go ahead and check a few more online book reprints too and see.

  5. MK July 11, 2013 at 2:18 pm #

    Considering that quote from the book isn’t the same (it would be ridiculous if he mistook the quote in his tattoo) and I truly doubt Johnny has many time to be obsessed over the real source to the character “Slim” and he might be unaware of all the secrets meanings or real story of Bogart/Bacall, I’m willing to believe that Slim is the nickname he have for Amber only based on how much she remind him of Lauren Bacall and he likes the movie.

    Also, it seems that he did the tattoo around the time they were in NM. So, the most obvious explanation it have to do with Amber

    At least, he learned the lesson of his “winona forever” and didn’t put her real name, it would be a new source of shame when they’ll split

  6. Maggie July 11, 2013 at 6:06 pm #

    He’s already got a new source of shame. It’s Amber, and after they split he can carry her handwriting around on himself like a total dumbass. He’ll deserve it too.

  7. AmberWHO? July 11, 2013 at 10:55 pm #

    True not her real name, but it will still be a reminder of her to him, if her calls her Slim. (Could we put an “e” on the end of that I think it would fit her better).

  8. M July 13, 2013 at 11:06 pm #

    *sigh* Has this been posted about yet?
    “She admires Lauren Bacall, citing her performance in To Have and Have Not as one of her favorites, and you’ll rarely catch her sans cherry-red lipstick.”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/29/amber-heard-talks-rum-diary-johnny-depp-playboy-club-and-coming-out-gay.html

    • jambernews July 14, 2013 at 4:28 am #

      The only thing that stuck out in this article is one of her quotes where she seems full of herself. No surprise.

  9. M July 13, 2013 at 11:17 pm #

    Also from that interview:
    “He mentioned, ‘When I was on my island,’ and I stopped him, touched his arm, and said, ‘I have to bring up the absurdity of the statement you just said.’ And he said, ‘I know, I know. But it’s true!’ And I said, ‘Nonetheless, I should mention my obligation to point out how absurd it is that you can casually mention ‘your island.’” She laughs loudly, pauses, and then says plainly, “I have always been very rebellious and gone against the grain. I’ve always challenged the standards set before me.”
    hah..

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